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The novel 'Some Bright Nowhere' dwells on the uncertain time between life and death

By Mary Louise Kelly,

Christopher Intagliata, Elena Burnett

Published November 12, 2025 at 4:41 PM EST

NPR's Mary Louise Kelly talks with the author Ann Packer about her new novel, Some Bright Nowhere.

Mary Louise Kelly

Mary Louise Kelly is a co-host of All Things Considered, NPR's award-winning afternoon newsmagazine.

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Christopher Intagliata

Christopher Intagliata is an editor at All Things Considered, where he writes news and edits interviews with politicians, musicians, restaurant owners, scientists and many of the other voices heard on the air.

Elena Burnett